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Title: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Kilman on October 27, 2011, 04:47:33 AM
I was going to ask if Teatime was doing NaNoWriMo again this year, then I read her blog which was rather indecisive.  No No No No... Maybe.  So I guess we will have to wait and see.

Once again, I will not be doing it.  I have another month or two worth of editing on the current project and can't see justifying putting it aside.

Does Falling Whale participate in NaNoWriMo?  Is she adequately recovered from moving?  I remember a disastrous time for my writing when I moved four times in five years.  That would not have been a problem when I was single, but moving after accumulating children and all the junk that goes along with having a family...  Needless to say, I wrote almost nothing worthwhile for that 5 year stretch.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Kilman on October 27, 2011, 05:05:49 AM
Lewot - what about you?  NaNoWriMo, or is there a comparable marathon game design month?

BTW, I sympathize with you on the whole annoyance with student loan indentured servitude.  The system is a scam, to put it mildly.

If you did go back to school, perhaps you could major in video game design.  Not that you need a degree to be able to design video games.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on October 27, 2011, 05:31:38 AM
Let's see, in order--

On very rare occasions, if I happen to have acquired a pound of inspiration, I can manage to complete a one-page short story or the like within a month, but a novel is quite out of the question for me in such a short amount of time.

I was never previously aware of any video game competitions similar to NaNoWriMo, but I have actually become aware of one recently. If I were to finish the game I'm currently working on in time, I think it would be submissible, but again I quite doubt that I will make the deadline. (I actually have no idea when the deadline is, but I still think it's a fair enough assumption.)

Game design is something that I could not ever stop myself from constantly doing, at least in terms of ideas, but, although they do advertise about college programs for game design, what it comes down to is the fact that there is no job that allows you to merely sit around thinking of cool ideas and then forcing people to make them into video games--you have to actually help produce them somehow, whether it's programming, graphic design, or perhaps music or something. And while I do program with Game Maker on my own time, I could never program with deadlines. It's hard enough to finish anything in time for dinner at Milliways, much less beforehand. Whenever I go through this thought path, the conclusion is this: what I would probably be best at is writing dialogue for video games that have a lot of it. However, despite there being many such games, I myself do not ever recall actually seeing a writing credit at the end of a game, so I'm not quite sure if "video game dialogue writer" is a real job either--the stories must come from somewhere, but maybe everyone who programs and graphic designs and stuff is full of ideas just like me, so they don't need separate writers. I'm not sure.

Hmm, that was longer than I intended. Anyway, my cousin is currently taking a college course that basically requires him to write a novel in order to pass, so, I'm not sure if he'll have it done for NaNoWriMo, but he has (to my knowledge) more or less met his deadlines so far. So that's interesting.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 05, 2011, 07:51:58 PM
Yep Falling Whale and I both kind of got sucked into NaNo. I'm not going for the full 50K, though. Just finishing up the rough draft of my work in progress.

Wow, to write a novel to pass a class. That's something. Does it need to be fully edited and ready for publication? In NaNo you basically have a very rough draft. It's only a month and most of us are doing other things during November- jobs, kids, writing blog posts about NaNo.  ::)
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on November 05, 2011, 09:16:04 PM
As far as I can tell, it seems like he's supposed to write ten new pages a week, and when he turns them in, he and the professor have a discussion about any editing that could be made, but I'm not sure if he's graded on the editing.

I suppose I should try to write something. At least a page. I'll have to think of an idea though.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 05, 2011, 11:00:08 PM
I end up with too many ideas and not enough time to write them all. My problem is typically getting stuck mid-story and then the urge to scrap the story.

You could try one of those random plot generators they have online. Some of them are dumb, but they might give you ideas.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: VogonGirl on November 06, 2011, 01:18:00 AM
I think I might just try to finish my school short story project and call that my NaNo. ::)

I end up with too many ideas and not enough time to write them all. My problem is typically getting stuck mid-story and then the urge to scrap the story.

I get that ALL the time.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 06, 2011, 01:57:55 AM
I think I might just try to finish my school short story project and call that my NaNo. ::)

That'll work!
 :D
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on November 06, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
I have ideas, but I never make it to mid-story. I get stuck before I even start writing. Not only do I get hung up on details that don't matter, but the details that don't matter are the entirety of the idea. I still tend to like all my ideas, though, and I keep trying to retool them every few years. It usually doesn't work.

It seems like if I actually finish something, it's a random idea that I have, that I don't really even like, but somehow I start writing immediately and just finish the whole thing, and then it turns out to be better than the ideas that I like. And also finished. But I never know when those will come around.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 07, 2011, 08:37:08 PM
Lewot, you might like the podcast Writing Excuses. http://www.writingexcuses.com/ 
Since Falling Whale told me about it, I've been listening to all of the old episodes and I'm hooked. It's helped me solve lots of little and big problems. And a lot of the episodes are funny too. They're only about 15 minutes long each.

Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Kilman on November 08, 2011, 07:50:42 PM
Ah, the many plagues of writing.  Considering that I don’t have a natural talent for it, and considering it is always such a struggle, I have to wonder if maybe I write due to some form of masochism.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 08, 2011, 11:55:53 PM
I suspect every writer writes due to a form of masochism.  :P

Here's one of my favorite quotes:

A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people.
~Thomas Mann
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on November 09, 2011, 02:55:16 AM
I actually had that quote as my signature at a forum that my high school English teacher made for his class.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 09, 2011, 04:52:18 AM
I actually had that quote as my signature at a forum that my high school English teacher made for his class.

Right on!  Or maybe I should say, "Write on!" LOL
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on November 19, 2013, 01:01:50 PM
Before you get too excited by this post, no, I don't have a novel for you. My cousin, who happens to be in Japan at the moment, is working on one for NaNoWriMo, and it's very good, but he probably won't want me posting it since he'll probably want to publish it. At any rate, in the spirit of NaNoWriMo, I did write a little something. It's quite short and probably too focused on unimportant things, but it's something.

How should I post it... well, I guess I'll just link to a PDF here (https://app.box.com/s/ill4hyx2gc9nbdzrno2e) (haha, 42.2 KB :P ).
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 21, 2013, 04:31:24 PM
Cool, Lewot!

I'm not doing NaNo this year. I was going to at least finish the short story I began. It's for a steampunk anthology and it has to be in by December, but I don't think that's happening for me.

Now, I'm off to read what you wrote. :)
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 21, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
Lewot, I just read your story. It's super hoopy! I really enjoyed it. You've really captured DNA's style. :)
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on November 23, 2013, 07:33:39 AM
That's good to hear. My friends liked it, but they're my friends so I wasn't quite sure.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Teatime on November 24, 2013, 07:13:59 PM
I can relate. When my mom piles on the praise I'm never sure if it's just because she's my mom.  :)
On the other hand, when I want to be humbled, I show my writing to my husband so he can laugh at me.  He just doesn't get my love of fantasy.  :P
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Kilman on November 26, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
Yes, that does seem to capture the style pretty well.  And it seemed like an intro to further adventures.  Does that mean we will be seeing more at some point?

I have never gone for NaNoWriMo in part because I can’t write that fast, or at least not if I want what I am writing to be worth a damn.  I am stuck on yet another revision of my novel.  I go for long stretches having no time to work on it, then work on it for a few months, then go back and find it needs more work.  I was hoping to be done with it for good by Christmas, but the universe always seems to conspire against me.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Grate Oracle Lewot on November 27, 2013, 08:29:33 AM
I guess the way I was thinking about it is, it could just be a conclusion to the series, or it could be a starting point for anyone who wants to write more adventures but doesn't know how to bring everyone back together. I actually cut out certain lines in order to avoid defining the future too well. But mainly I just wanted to show my ideas for bringing everyone back.

I gather the point of Nanowrimo is to force you to produce something that you can go back and edit later--get you started if you can't start--but I've never been able to do it either. A lot of people perform better under pressure; I do worse. It's just how it is.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: VogonGirl on November 27, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
That was pretty good, Lewot!  I'm not good at reviewing or anything so I hardly have anything useful to say to people other than "good job, loved the story", but I agree with the others so I'll just second Teatime's and Kilman's opinions, giving you double points.

I was aiming to do NaNoWriMo this year, but as always it slips my mind and there it goes.  Maybe they should change NaNoWriMo to the month that I will remember to do it.
Title: Re: NaNoWriMo
Post by: Kilman on November 27, 2013, 07:04:58 PM
Well anyway, it was a clever way to bring them back together.  I never read And Another Thing so I don't know what Colfer did.  The one problem with something like this is that you can't sell it.  Maybe you should try your hand at creating something new and getting it published.

As for NaNoWriMo, I guess I could do 50,000 if I didn't have a ton of other responsibilities.  I like to lie to myself and tell myself that I will have so much more time once the kids graduate homeschool.  Who knows, maybe I will.  I do vaguely remember having lots of time... long, long ago.